The Whole Horse Podcast | Episode 47 | Getting to the Heart of it with Elisse Miki and Josh Nichol

Oh wow. This episode was off the charts cool! Elisse Miki and Josh Nichol have teamed up to build a bridge between the anatomy and physiology of the heart and horsemanship, and I can’t get enough. This conversation took us to so many amazing mind-blowing places I don’t even know how to share them all in writing. You’ll just have to have a listen in to get a sense of the adventure we had. Enjoy this awesome collaboration!

As a human and equine therapist with over 15 years of experience working with clients in a therapeutic setting, Elisse Miki brings a wide variety of modalities into her practice. She began her career working as an Exercise Physiologist having completed her Bachelors in Kinesiology then went on to obtain her Registered Massage Therapy Licence. She has since gone on to complete Diplomas in Equine Therapy, Equine Craniosacral, and currently in the process of completing both her Human and Equine Osteopathy Diplomas concurrently. Elisse is also an Instructor of RMT at the West Coast College of Massage Therapy and a Certified Equine Assisted Learning Instructor. Her current focus lies in research and development of standards of practice in the equine industry. Learn more at

In Josh’s words: “I like to think of myself as a professional student of the horse; learning is what I do first and teaching is second. Mentoring people, building relationships and watching growth is truly my passion. I currently teach clinics throughout Canada in the summer and work out of our home ranch in the winter, helping people develop their relationships through horsemanship. This style of horsemanship is very relational, it allows you to see yourself through your horse and continues as you advance through the process. Mastery in horsemanship begins with a commitment to bettering ourselves! This starts with taking ownership and responsibility for our part of the story, thus interpreting the horse’s actions and performance differently.  When we are aware of – and work on developing – our side of the relationship, we truly facilitate not only growth in our horses, but growth in ourselves.  Good horsemanship challenges everything about our inner person. What an amazing gift: progressing in our horsemanship goes hand in hand with developing our best self!” Learn more about Josh at


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